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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by Round Robin: The Rabbit Hole &#8211; Anime &#38; Escapism &#171; myucon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Round Robin: The Rabbit Hole &#8211; Anime &#38; Escapism &#171; myucon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by Coffee Spoons&#187; Blog Archive &#187; First Round: The Rabbit Hole [Anime &#38; Escapism]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coffee Spoons&#187; Blog Archive &#187; First Round: The Rabbit Hole [Anime &#38; Escapism]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 23:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Participants: Hinano, elezend, animemiz, soshi, myu, blissmo, shizukie, choux, a day without me, usagijen, gia, kaeboo, and dick [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Gender in anime: The unloved, or, how I learned to trust fandom and love tsundere. by &#8220;lelangiric&#8221; &#187; The Poetics of Genderbenderism, The Cacophony of Gender</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;lelangiric&#8221; &#187; The Poetics of Genderbenderism, The Cacophony of Gender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 14:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by bettynoire</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lelangir -- I&#039;m glad you enjoyed my post. ^.^;; I kept babbling when I originally wrote it, so I&#039;m glad it turned out understandable as it did. It&#039;s funny how the way we word something, even if we mean the same thing in the end, can carry such different implications, like you say. I&#039;m sure people would have read you&#039;re intial idea and thought completely different things than my post might have evoked. That&#039;s sort of why I love blogging so much. 

@alexa - Pan&#039;s Labyrinth was awesomesauce, for pretty much exactly the reasons you stated. And anyways, so long as you don&#039;t mind, I&#039;d love to read a piece of you soul. Rofl that sounds kinda creepy. Secret History definitely deserves a second reading, as well. 

@adaywithoutme - It&#039;s very true -- that&#039;s definitely why Alice in Wonderland has been one of my favorite stories for so long. It&#039;s odd and different but so incredibly familiar -- the way the best sorts of stories have to be, I think.

@blissmo - Me too. :-D

@TheBigN - Waaa~ You compliment me too much! ^.^;; Anyways, blame itsubun and some other gals for being so insistent about getting me to join the round robin. I can&#039;t guarantee I&#039;ll be consistent but it&#039;s much more motivating to write when I know people are going to read it. Pardon my ego, haha. I do think that the ways we &quot;escape&quot; probably say something about ourselves, though perhaps something a bit more abstract, and if not abstract than certainly less easily defined. So many people choose the same hobby - even the circle of fools this hobby collects makes that sort of obvious, I think. And I say fools as in jolly court jesters, not stupid people. :-p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lelangir &#8212; I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed my post. ^.^;; I kept babbling when I originally wrote it, so I&#8217;m glad it turned out understandable as it did. It&#8217;s funny how the way we word something, even if we mean the same thing in the end, can carry such different implications, like you say. I&#8217;m sure people would have read you&#8217;re intial idea and thought completely different things than my post might have evoked. That&#8217;s sort of why I love blogging so much. </p>
<p>@alexa &#8211; Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth was awesomesauce, for pretty much exactly the reasons you stated. And anyways, so long as you don&#8217;t mind, I&#8217;d love to read a piece of you soul. Rofl that sounds kinda creepy. Secret History definitely deserves a second reading, as well. </p>
<p>@adaywithoutme &#8211; It&#8217;s very true &#8212; that&#8217;s definitely why Alice in Wonderland has been one of my favorite stories for so long. It&#8217;s odd and different but so incredibly familiar &#8212; the way the best sorts of stories have to be, I think.</p>
<p>@blissmo &#8211; Me too. :-D</p>
<p>@TheBigN &#8211; Waaa~ You compliment me too much! ^.^;; Anyways, blame itsubun and some other gals for being so insistent about getting me to join the round robin. I can&#8217;t guarantee I&#8217;ll be consistent but it&#8217;s much more motivating to write when I know people are going to read it. Pardon my ego, haha. I do think that the ways we &#8220;escape&#8221; probably say something about ourselves, though perhaps something a bit more abstract, and if not abstract than certainly less easily defined. So many people choose the same hobby &#8211; even the circle of fools this hobby collects makes that sort of obvious, I think. And I say fools as in jolly court jesters, not stupid people. :-p</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by TheBigN</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see that something has got your brilliant mind to posting again. :3

It does make sense that escapism is just another way to confirm who we are.  I do wonder what that means in regards to what you indulge yourself in order to escape. Anime? Music? Sports? Does what medium you choose to escape in say something as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see that something has got your brilliant mind to posting again. :3</p>
<p>It does make sense that escapism is just another way to confirm who we are.  I do wonder what that means in regards to what you indulge yourself in order to escape. Anime? Music? Sports? Does what medium you choose to escape in say something as well?</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by Escapism: Blogging versus Anime? &#171; &#8220;Lelangiric&#8221;, or so they say&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Escapism: Blogging versus Anime? &#171; &#8220;Lelangiric&#8221;, or so they say&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by lelangir on June 4, 2008  Thanks to the most recent pieces written by Bettynoire and Iniksbane, I have gotten new material to spring off of in response to the round-robin. There [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by blissmo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked Alice in Wonderland</description>
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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by adaywithoutme</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed your criticism of the concept of escapism itself. 

As for the Alice in Wonderland allusions, I suppose the best way to define it is to say that one must escape from oneself in order to really know oneself - one must step outside of one&#039;s existence and experiences, for to look from the inside is to not truly know oneself. Alice might think she&#039;s going down a rabbit hole and away from what is sensical, and therefore her act can come across as escapism, but she finds herself - for a few of us, I think our responses illustrated this fact; I know mine certainly did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed your criticism of the concept of escapism itself. </p>
<p>As for the Alice in Wonderland allusions, I suppose the best way to define it is to say that one must escape from oneself in order to really know oneself &#8211; one must step outside of one&#8217;s existence and experiences, for to look from the inside is to not truly know oneself. Alice might think she&#8217;s going down a rabbit hole and away from what is sensical, and therefore her act can come across as escapism, but she finds herself &#8211; for a few of us, I think our responses illustrated this fact; I know mine certainly did.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by alexa</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its funny that you bring up Alice in Wonderland and escapism and all that business, because I was watching Pan&#039;s Labyrinth last night (which a lot of people see as a new version of Wonderland), and I found it so interesting that the main character, Ofelia, goes into this fairytale world with the intention of escaping her very (very very very) harsh reality, but the fairytale creatures don&#039;t let her. They force her to face who she is before she can join them, which I thought was awesome and was rather disappointed that it isn&#039;t actually a kid&#039;s film because its got some great lessons for kids.

Also, in a strangely related way, I was thinking about finding reflections of yourself in regards to this movie in terms of race. You know how I&#039;m always annoyed with multiculturalists who claim that people need to see people of their own race, see heroes of stories that look like them, in order to gain a sense of identity. But when I started watching Pan&#039;s Labyrinth I felt strange sort of excitement in seeing a main character that looked like me because she was Latina, but quickly realized that it was by no means some profound sense of connection with those I shared some genetics and culture with, just vanity. 

P.S. I appreciate the Secret History quote. And if you think that book was so much like me, I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re going to think when you read Island, which is a book I view as a piece of my soul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its funny that you bring up Alice in Wonderland and escapism and all that business, because I was watching Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth last night (which a lot of people see as a new version of Wonderland), and I found it so interesting that the main character, Ofelia, goes into this fairytale world with the intention of escaping her very (very very very) harsh reality, but the fairytale creatures don&#8217;t let her. They force her to face who she is before she can join them, which I thought was awesome and was rather disappointed that it isn&#8217;t actually a kid&#8217;s film because its got some great lessons for kids.</p>
<p>Also, in a strangely related way, I was thinking about finding reflections of yourself in regards to this movie in terms of race. You know how I&#8217;m always annoyed with multiculturalists who claim that people need to see people of their own race, see heroes of stories that look like them, in order to gain a sense of identity. But when I started watching Pan&#8217;s Labyrinth I felt strange sort of excitement in seeing a main character that looked like me because she was Latina, but quickly realized that it was by no means some profound sense of connection with those I shared some genetics and culture with, just vanity. </p>
<p>P.S. I appreciate the Secret History quote. And if you think that book was so much like me, I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re going to think when you read Island, which is a book I view as a piece of my soul.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Round Robin] Down, down, down the Rabbit Hole by lelangir</title>
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		<dc:creator>lelangir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damnit, I was trying to write a post on how &#039;escapism&#039; isn&#039;t an actual movement in that sense but rather just shifting things around us to make the motion seem relative, or something - but your post was much more lucid. I didn&#039;t even think of escapism-as-immersion (doh), nor did I ponder about the looking glass. The end result is still similar - both variations are about experiencing something unrealistic, although I&#039;m sure both models have different implications...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damnit, I was trying to write a post on how &#8216;escapism&#8217; isn&#8217;t an actual movement in that sense but rather just shifting things around us to make the motion seem relative, or something &#8211; but your post was much more lucid. I didn&#8217;t even think of escapism-as-immersion (doh), nor did I ponder about the looking glass. The end result is still similar &#8211; both variations are about experiencing something unrealistic, although I&#8217;m sure both models have different implications&#8230;</p>
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